Ria Hall joins Estelle to talk about her new album 'Rules of Engagement'

Rules of Engagement is the debut album from Ria Hall and it's brilliant.

A concept album where she collaborated with Tiki Taane, Kings, Mara TK, Che Fu and Laughton Kora.

It was inspired by the actual 'Rules of Engagement' document which was written in 1864 ahead of the Gate Pa battle. Fusing Love and War, Tradition, our Past and our Futures.

This is from Ria's Facebook page - "My theory is we need to look back to learn from our past, create understanding in the present and walk side by side into the future."

Kiaora to that girl!

Take a listen to our chat ...sniff a book (that'll make sense once you listen!) and get the album

You can also catch her live at the Tauranga Arts Festival with a fantastic art instillation inspired by her album and a few other shows and dates around Aotearoa, check that out HERE